tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post2439010809107846202..comments2023-12-24T17:41:42.989-08:00Comments on seraillon: “Things ought to be looked at differently in life than in speech” – Antonio Beccadelli’s The Hermaphroditeseraillonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-79838992866344242772015-01-26T08:35:05.350-08:002015-01-26T08:35:05.350-08:00Thanks, Séamus. I'm very much interested in th...Thanks, Séamus. I'm very much interested in these multiplicity of ways writers try to deal with the substantial risks that can be involved in writing - pseudonyms, claims that a manuscript was written by another (like Manzoni in <i>The Betrothed</i>, renunciation, exile, etc. In this case, Beccadelli seems to have known he would run into trouble, and so spends an inordinate amount of time in presenting a defense of the obscene. It appears that for the most part he was successful.seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-80558400647455754322015-01-26T01:06:10.107-08:002015-01-26T01:06:10.107-08:00Like others here, Scott, I'm highly unlikely t...Like others here, Scott, I'm highly unlikely to ever read this and yet I enjoyed your gloss on it. The closest I've read to this would be the Earl of Rochester. But he published anonymously, I think, although it was an open secret. There is a certain fascination in reading something where a genuine risk exists for the author for writing it. A risk that tragically seems to be reemerging, as you note.Séamus Dugganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00574186409184247059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-73782223813684043122015-01-21T07:09:44.364-08:002015-01-21T07:09:44.364-08:00Oh great, the spam thing hadn't even occurred ...Oh great, the spam thing hadn't even occurred to me, Richard. And heck, about the only thing I know how to do in HTML is to put something in italics, which isn't exactly going to help...seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-7871955896253287782015-01-20T22:41:32.470-08:002015-01-20T22:41:32.470-08:00I found your post both amusing and informative, Sc...I found your post both amusing and informative, Scott, and I agree that the I Tatti imprint bears further research. However, I dread for you the onslaught of spam that you'll now receive for the next 10 years!Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01746599416342846897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-81970207144779015882015-01-19T15:49:03.787-08:002015-01-19T15:49:03.787-08:00There's a lot of intriguing stuff in that libr...There's a lot of intriguing stuff in that library - maybe, like this one, perhaps more intriguing to specialists - but I might explore some more. I poked around in Boccaccio's <i>On Famous Women</i> a few years back, and may revisit that. And one of your commenters recommended <i>Baldo</i>, so should it ever get returned to the library, I may give that a whirl. seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-8316220293739155182015-01-19T15:45:56.644-08:002015-01-19T15:45:56.644-08:00Brian - Thanks. I think your last line hits on wha...Brian - Thanks. I think your last line hits on what's perhaps most interesting here. seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-76283463717646373552015-01-19T15:44:15.007-08:002015-01-19T15:44:15.007-08:00Jacqui - I'm glad someone got some enjoyment o...Jacqui - I'm glad <i>someone</i> got some enjoyment out of this. Those strategies for evading censoring authority pop up over and over in the Renaissance; interesting to see what authors can get away with and with what means they try (usually multiple means). I'm not sorry I read the book, though. It provides a kind of benchmark for looking at previous and subsequent efforts to tamp such material down.seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-45618802929672883502015-01-19T14:19:08.818-08:002015-01-19T14:19:08.818-08:00Oh that's what this book is. All right.
I wo...Oh that's what this book is. All right.<br /><br />I would not mind if someone else would work through the I Tatti books. I'm not going to do it.Amateur Reader (Tom)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675275555757408496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-3013009085130007322015-01-18T07:52:44.592-08:002015-01-18T07:52:44.592-08:00I also loved your commentary on this Scott, probab...I also loved your commentary on this Scott, probably more then I would like the poems themselves.<br /><br />Though some of the passages that you quoted seem very amusing, more so in light of the fact of when they were written, I could see how this could get very tedious. <br /><br />It seems like these poems would be of interest to those studying how cultural attitudes have or have not changes over time.Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-31225546346414316872015-01-17T02:13:10.225-08:002015-01-17T02:13:10.225-08:00I enjoyed reading this, Scott, and it's great ...I enjoyed reading this, Scott, and it's great to hear one or two snippets about your travels to Naples! I doubt whether 'The Hermaphrodite' is for me, but I really like your closing comments on the value of defending such material. Well said. And as you've mentioned in your review, it must be fascinating to read about the nature of these poems' reception and their defence. They're the elements that would be of interest to me. JacquiWinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16220597283351925721noreply@blogger.com