tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post344495481801827780..comments2023-12-24T17:41:42.989-08:00Comments on seraillon: “Close your mouths, let your ears hang low, and give me a little attention” - Giambattista Basile’s The Tale of Tales seraillonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-30383626004135842202015-09-02T07:05:53.074-07:002015-09-02T07:05:53.074-07:00This does sound absolutely mouth-watering.This does sound absolutely mouth-watering.Mimic Hootingshttp://mimichootings.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-24603082807573857562015-08-24T20:41:28.626-07:002015-08-24T20:41:28.626-07:00I had something of the same sense while reading Ba...I had something of the same sense while reading Basile - that I'd been missing out on something fairly essential. I don't understand why he's not as well known as the Grimms or Hans Christian Andersen. seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-18844619462696869302015-08-24T20:39:54.375-07:002015-08-24T20:39:54.375-07:00I think you will love it too, Brian. And you'r...I think you will love it too, Brian. And you're right about the darkness in so many fairy and folkloric tales. I'm curious now to look at some of the critical literature around them, since I think Basile gives a few fascinating clues as to the purpose of such tales. Canapa makes the point that the "Little Ones' of the subtitle may simply refer to common people, not children.<br /><br />I wish there were even <i>more</i> food references here, but there are enough that I've been rummaging to find some of these old recipes...seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-46373027275565279582015-08-24T20:36:23.600-07:002015-08-24T20:36:23.600-07:00They were having a blast! Folengo is so, so good, ...They were having a blast! Folengo is so, so good, unconstrained by form, and given the macaronic language perhaps more entertaining than Basile on a linguistic level (or would be, if one knew how to read macaroni). But Basile's range is so great and his humanism so deep that I don't think you can choose between them. You'll just have to read both. seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-42418886547952656102015-08-24T15:50:21.546-07:002015-08-24T15:50:21.546-07:00The quotes are fantastic and this sounds like a &#...The quotes are fantastic and this sounds like a 'must read' rather than a candidate for the infinite scroll that is the wish-list.Séamus Dugganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00574186409184247059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-91001991329764845272015-08-23T08:18:42.499-07:002015-08-23T08:18:42.499-07:00I think that I will love this.
There is a dark a...I think that I will love this. <br /><br />There is a dark and bizarre thread running through so much of the folklore and old fanciful stories. Stories that we label fairy tales, regardless of the fact that they may have been written for children are no exception. <br /><br />I love the fact that there are so many references to food.<br /><br />Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-67935264395783342532015-08-23T04:29:57.036-07:002015-08-23T04:29:57.036-07:00Ha ha, I'm currently reading G&P so the go...Ha ha, I'm currently reading G&P so the goose episode is fresh in my memory.<br /><br />Folengo is another one I want to read, because of his influence on Rabelais and the picaresque romance. Those old Italians were having all sorts of fun!LMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08538873868140070018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-34219005197126934052015-08-22T09:18:02.919-07:002015-08-22T09:18:02.919-07:00What sharp eyes, Miguel! Yes, that reference, from...What sharp eyes, Miguel! Yes, that reference, from the apparently widely-read Basile, is from Rabelais (and is acknowledged by Canepa). Thanks for the link to her study; I will certainly check it out. I had not heard of Basile either before encountering Folengo, but having now read him am dumbfounded that his name isn't a household word like Grimm or Andersen - or even, as Canepa notes above, Shakespeare. It seems impossible that I hadn't previously heard of Basile; I found this a great, great book, an anti-classical Renaissance masterpiece hiding in plain sight.seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-81903036679298556392015-08-22T09:11:23.706-07:002015-08-22T09:11:23.706-07:00Yes, I had fun. Such unexpected delight, this book...Yes, I had fun. Such unexpected delight, this book! There's something about the Neapolitan specificity of it that grounds it in a way that I found far more engaging than other fairy tale collections, and of course the language is unceasingly magnificent. <br /><br />I'm eager to see the film - nice that it's been made by a director so clearly invested in Naples himself. I did see <i>Gomorrah</i> (and have read significant portions of the Saviano book). The film apparently only covers three tales, which leaves another 48 (counting the framing tale) with which Garrone can manufacture sequels.seraillonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654593356535433945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-5477048336042610702015-08-22T02:08:15.951-07:002015-08-22T02:08:15.951-07:00a live goose used as toilet paper.
Hey, I spotted...<i>a live goose used as toilet paper.</i><br /><br />Hey, I spotted <i>that</i> reference! It's from Rabelais' <i>Gargantua and Pantagruel.</i><br /><br />Great review, Scott; I had never heard of this book but now I'm curious to read, alongside Folengo's mock epic.<br /><br />I notice Nancy Canepa has also written a study of Basile's book. "From Court to Forest: Giambattista Basile's Lo cunto de li cunti and the Birth of the Literary Fairy Tale."<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/From-Court-Forest-Giambattista-Literary/dp/0814327583/ref=pd_sim_14_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=1T9X7NGJK55DGYC0FPVBLMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08538873868140070018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-58540915330336265882015-08-22T01:28:00.929-07:002015-08-22T01:28:00.929-07:00Adult fairy tales, what larks! I can tell you'...Adult fairy tales, what larks! I can tell you've had fun reading this, Scott. I especially like the sound of the alternative version of Cinderella, The Cinderella Cat. <br /><br />The film is definitely going on my watch list, especially as it's directed by Matteo Garrone. (I guess you've seen Gomorrah?) The reviews look good, too.<br /><br />http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/may/13/tale-of-tales-review-eat-your-heart-out-for-matteo-garrones-royally-nasty-fairytale<br /><br /><br />JacquiWinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16220597283351925721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2609668304633418767.post-28469092779516055572015-08-21T20:30:45.861-07:002015-08-21T20:30:45.861-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15025285146103131395noreply@blogger.com